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Viktor77
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Can you speak your conlang? Reply with quote

Speak? Read? Write? Understand?

At what kind of proficiency?

Do you know other's conlangs?

It's a given that we are all familiar with our conlangs, but it'd be interesting to know who can converse, or who is fluent in theirs.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extremely fluent in my own. Almost as fluent as in English. That includes reading and writing. And understanding .I think. I've recorded audio notes in my lang, and easily followed them when reviewing them a couple days later. No one else speaks my language (well), so I can't really test myself.

It would be neat to learn someone else's conlang, and try to be fluent in it. Someone should write a Rosetta Stone-type program for conlangs Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell no.
I was proud of myself, yesterday, when I composed a very basic sentence without having to look up anything.

I can read and write my conscript without much trouble, though (the scribbly stuff in my signature). I transliterate English with it when I take notes in class, most of the time, though. When things are a bit slow.

(Well will you look at that... this made me a Tshur)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can speak, read, write, and understand Alurhsa fairly well. I used to say I was fluent in it, but I've let it slip a bit over the last few months. I am working on getting that level of fluency back. I still write my journal in it and look up very, very few words, and I write it almost as fast as I write English. (Well, faster, since my English handwriting is appalling...).

I don't really know either of my other two active conlangs, Tariatta and Ku Tal, anywhere near that well.

I know Tsiasuk-Pron's Itlani fairly well. Not fluently, and I tend to still need a dictionary handy to really say much, but well enough that he and I can communicate by email, and to a lesser extent by spoken word in person.

Alurhsa version:
Mv sehene lrvsme ev, vel, vl dd vz zh'lurhsxn. Dvely lhen ttlrvsme gnev dhn, he rme mlevsvy dhn g zh prenyxn zenyyxn, dd vrejl vneres ykr. Nyets mv kely lhls-vlrenn dd nelh hdh cl r evn, dd vll kn s qlsme s zh'glsxn. (Qlsv, kalesh, kl glezme vll zh'glsxn vlrxn...)

Verhsxne e gnevl krme lrvsme eyn lhls-ysh sl vreleks hlye, zh Vyns dd zh Ktls.

Sehene lrvsme gnevl zh'tlnsn Tssk-Prn. e ttlrvsme, dd nelhll evrenn plef dv rn, he sehene plef el mv gzr mshv nskenxn, zlenme vne wlxna.


(And yes, I wrote that without looking up a single word...)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can pronounce most of my conlangs, and read/write the scripts I've created for them.
However, my most recent project (unnamed), which I posted in C&C quickies, has over 16 types of prenasalized consonants. I can not pronounce it, nor do I have much hope to. It was a lang created to explore some new subjects that I haven't explored in any other conlangs I've created.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not really fluent in my conlang, but I can speak, read, write, and understand it fairly well. I seem to sort of memorize it as I go, as opposed to some people that I've talked to.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Constructing sentences grammar-wise is not very much of a problem, since I have been working on my conlang for the last 4 years (and still haven't got both a decent written grammar and any diacronics done!), but I have still only memorized few words apart from functional morphemes.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I am fluent in Itlani. I use it whenever I can. I try to think in it whenever I remember too. I keep a journal in it. I email in it (usually bilingually). I do have to occasionally look up a word in the Lexicon. Some words just don't seem to stick with me. I can read Itlani in both its square and cursive script. Easier for me in reading is the romanization though.

I know a few words of halyihev's Alurhsa but I really struggle with that.

Itlani:

Khay, kul-previzhe ta Itlanit sholova eypya makayaru. Djurova igayaru ranti-v makayaru. Djurilu talshya khiyefyaru ranti-v idaova zhigutyaru. Djurilu aspalfereshova feryaru. Djurilu sotanyaru (ayfanalilu zarsholizhe). Haku-haku gadanova mampisya dini ta Gadansalan cheykopyaru. Sneha gadan seti zhoyan depikyaru ra. Ta chenferilu vey ta yeniferilu ta Itlanit sholova makbashya makayaru. Aromanizhe zhoyese onyara ta romteynsimova igaya.

Anuvit gadanov ta Alurit shola halyiheva pilayaru ruzay seti idaan prakyaru kha.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am not fluent in my most developed conlang, Aidisese, but i have memorized some of its vocabulary and most of its grammar
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of yet - i can barely make simple phrases out of Saiyan, much less speak it in sentences. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O hell no. Not even close. None of it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha ha. I speak Chinese better.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it possible to make a conlang without learning it? The fact that I don't know is probably why I don't have a decent conlang of my own yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep working on it you'll get there. As for me yes. I can read it, speak it, write in it of course.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoris wrote:
Ha ha ha. I speak Chinese better.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can speak, read, and write Carune to varying degrees, although I never have the opportunity to speak it (I soliloquize at times, but slowly, with pausing). This isn't saying much, though, as Carune is a borderline Italian-clone, and I already study French and Spanish. I need to look up words sometimes, but much of the time I can approximate from either of those languages. I imagine my listening comprehension, if I ever had the opportunity to test it, would be less than great.

In Carune:
Posson parlare, lere, e scrivire Carune a var punti, m che n'ho l'opportunit de parlarlo (soliloquizo dei tempi, m lentamente, con fermate). N' molto, an, per che Carune un quasi-clono d'Italiano, e gi stuzio il francese e il spagnolo. Dei tempi, s'falla che investighe paroli, m in generale posson approssimare de queste lingue. Imaggino che mia comprensione auditoria, si aveva l'opportunit d'essaminarla, esser mench'ottima.

It's not nearly as dramatic and cool as Itlani.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can use and read the script, and know a few words and random sentences, as well as a majority of the grammar, but I would be hard pressed to do more than translate with assistance. I asked a similar question awhile ago, and I got many responses like this. You might need to rephrease your "given". Very Happy

I probaby know more of Tsiasuk's Itlani than of my own conlang.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, I didn't think you could know someone else's conlang better than your own.

Like langlover, I basically memorized it as I went along. I usually just talk to myself in it, to improve my conversing skills. I used to use "koi" alot (my languages version of "um..."), but now I don't as much.

Now I just need to get someone to talk to (other than myself).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, but you can. I work on mine piecemeal. And it's much more complicated than Tsiasuk's.


[quote=downtimer]How is it possible to make a conlang without learning it? The fact that I don't know is probably why I don't have a decent conlang of my own yet.[/quote] Don't worry. I don't know mine very well yet, and certainy barely any words of it. It's much like many amateur poets (and probably professionals) know few of their poems. How often have you dealt with a complete conlang of yours on anything like a comprehensive basis? Much of my work on the grammar deals very much with abstrcts of the language; not conducive to learning at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andre wrote:
Zoris wrote:
Ha ha ha. I speak Chinese better.

WHS


Of course, I have been learning Chinese for the past six months and have only worked on my conlang for the past three....
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't speak two of my most worked on conlang simply because the language is not meant to be spoken by human.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilasir Maroa wrote:
Oh, but you can. I work on mine piecemeal. And it's much more complicated than Tsiasuk's.


It is true that Itlani is a simple and very regular language that reflects the people that speak it. As languages go it is not very challenging to learn but I am very happy with the way it turned out and I am thoroughly enjoying it.

Itlani:

Izmuyara u ta Itlanit shol omoit vey pashni odnokatsit shol onyara kin ta eyparsalova piryara. Dazhini ta sholav djurova tilya pashni kiponizhe ra-onyara ruzay djuray pashni anarakyaru vey djurova kulizhe giurunyaru.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, there are a lot of Itlani-speakers on the ZBB. (BTW, what's the Itlani for "Itlani-speaker"? Just wondering.)

And I still need my pages of morphosyntax notes and a dictionary to write anything in any of my conlangs. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PTSnoop wrote:
Wow, there are a lot of Itlani-speakers on the ZBB. (BTW, what's the Itlani for "Itlani-speaker"? Just wondering.)


Just guessing here, but I want to see how close I am.

I know three suffixes for persons (not counting -or and -el designating male and female).

-di is a professional at whatever the root meaning is such as uzinferdi for "speech writer" from uzin "formal speech" and fer- meaning "write".

-ek is, I think, a person with the attribute of that, such as talmenshunek for "enchantor/enchantress (more correctly "vision seer")".

-tan is someone having the inherent trait of the root, thus Itlantan means an Itlani person.

So, I might construct "Itlanit eypek" since this isn't a professional thing and not really an inherent one.

Now let's see when Tsiasuk-Pron posts whether I'm even on the right track...
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